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#1 08-19-2014 17:04:30

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zoe quinn and her time with five guys

just in case you thought that video game journalism couldn't be any more corrupt


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#2 08-19-2014 18:29:56

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nothing will happen


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#3 08-19-2014 18:44:51

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Re: zoe quinn and her time with five guys

depressionquest is still a good game


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#4 08-19-2014 18:48:10

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Re: zoe quinn and her time with five guys

that's irrelevant to the issue


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#5 08-19-2014 19:52:27

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Re: zoe quinn and her time with five guys

if the game is actually good then why does it matter that the people she had sex with promoted it
i think people give a little too much of a shit


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#6 08-19-2014 20:41:46

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Re: zoe quinn and her time with five guys

its more about the fact that she goes out and says "this is wrong" and then goes and does said things that she claimed is wrong than about the game itself. (the exboyfriend's blog posts have actual examples of things she's said, thus why he posted what he posted)

i havent watched the video so if the person is saying something about dq being shit then that's really missing the actual issue which is nepotism and corruption in the industry.

(at this point in the post im watching the video) okay so this guy gets really personal at some points so its hard to really even take him serious.

but again, the issue is the nepotism, not the game or quality of the game itself. but again, nothing will happen because of this nepotism. everyone in the industry (especially indies) are friends with eachother so even if this stuff is true, they will defend eachother. 2 of the confirmed guys are indie developers. 1 was a kotaku guy and the other 2 werent outed. (the guy in the video got his info wrong)

and the thing is that 2 other people have come out and said that she's caused them harm. one guy (an indie) was sexually harrased by her and the rest of the indies (notably phil fish) jumped down his throat to tell him to shut the fuck up about it. and the video has a thing about a game jam for women that she caused an uproar about.

there's one other person that got screwed over, but what happened with her is kind of irrelevant to whats happening now.

im not gonna be taking a side or even get involved in this discussion because it's a huge mess but i might as well inform you why people are upset.


i will also say that, again, nothing will happen because they all are protecting eachother. they know that even if any of this is true, there won't any consequences. people are asking for 5 guys to get fired from their jobs but it simply isnt realistic because 2 of them are their own boss. (nobody knows about the other two) and the kotaku guy works for kotaku. it'd be stupid of them to get rid of him knowing his name is a hot topic of debate.


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another thing: this entire ordeal looks like nothing more than gamers vehemently attacking a woman for being a woman in the industry. so thats another reason why nothing will happen.

this doesnt excuse the actual abuse zoe quinn has gotten though.

but people upset with zoe are acting pretty irrationally about this, regardless of whether they're sending abuse or not.

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#7 08-19-2014 22:12:11

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Re: zoe quinn and her time with five guys

well besides the fact that she's a complete whore she didn't do much wrong

except being a whore


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#8 08-19-2014 23:22:31

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Re: zoe quinn and her time with five guys

the guy in the video says that her cheating with people is business between her and her ex bf and that he made the video because of how its linked with games journalism
i do agree that the abuse that she's getting from people is more than necessary but you can't say there's no reason behind it, they're not doing it just because she's a woman in the games industry because there are plenty of women in the industry whose contributions are recognized and respected (amy henrig, ayami kojima etc.)
it's just like the business with jennfier hepler years ago, when she said she didn't like playing games cause they were too difficult. when she got shit from people over twitter it wasn't just because she said something people don't like, it was because they saw her and her statement as the embodiment of problems that were in video games, especially the ones that bioware were milking out at the time.
and now the same thing is happening here, people have suspected for a while now that major games journalists like ign, rps and kotaku care more about money and views than the games themselves (jeff gerstmann getting fired from gamespot, reviewers receiving ad revenue from the games they're writing about, a general lack of standards amongst journalists), and now there's someone who has literally cheated the industry and bribed her way into getting her game promoted
it's not because her game's an indie game about depression, it's not because she's a woman in the games industry, it's not even because she cheated on her bf with other people, it's that she proved what everyone had been thinking for the past half decade
the problem is that all this abuse is only fuel to help claims that she's being oppressed because she's a woman and so she can lump it right next to any real criticism as some kind of hate campaign conspiracy
not to mention the fact that out of everyone involved, she's getting nearly all of it, when the people who were involved with her are just as, if not more, deserving of the same kind of attention
it's impossible to say for certain whether or not this will change anything, but what is probably going to happen is the people  trying to protect her will keep trying to be social justice warriors in other matters, kotaku and rps will keep writing their clickbait articles for views and whilst this may have spread some awareness on games journalism, the only people who will bother to listen are those who already know. the only person who i can see being affected by this will be zoe herself, i doubt anyone will ever want to work with someone with this much controversy surrounding them.
if this was just standard "a girl cheating on her bf?? the DRAMA!" i wouldn't care at all. but i've never liked how many games journalists have pushed the idea that "games are art, guys!" whilst simultaneously showing next to no standards, integrity or effort as a voice of critical dissent.


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#9 08-20-2014 01:27:32

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Re: zoe quinn and her time with five guys

https://mobile.twitter.com/stephentotilo

nothing was done

anyway nah i completely agree but again...nepotism. the entire indie community is standing by her. she'll find work again.


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#10 08-20-2014 01:40:52

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#11 08-22-2014 06:19:50

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#13 08-22-2014 08:38:52

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Re: zoe quinn and her time with five guys

they doxxed him so fucking hard


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phil fish is an asshole but goddamn

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#14 08-22-2014 09:06:46

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Re: zoe quinn and her time with five guys

theres like 20 tweets missing including his last one but

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#15 08-22-2014 18:48:33

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Re: zoe quinn and her time with five guys

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they doxxed him so fucking hard


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phil fish is an asshole but goddamn


false flag

they're doing it for publicity

also fez is a shitty game and i hope phil fish dies


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#16 08-22-2014 21:33:11

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Re: zoe quinn and her time with five guys

phil fish is trying his hardest to be relevant.


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#17 08-22-2014 23:52:46

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truthfully i think i take more issue with her hypocrisy as a person than her manipulation of guys for publicity. i think there's way more to be at fault for as a partner and decent human being than as a member of the gaming industry. do you really want to tell me that gaming would be the only industry in which bribery didnt take place? does this really change anything?


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#18 08-23-2014 00:08:06

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yea i couldn't care less what this means for the game industry
i'm just glad i'm never gonna have to hear her social justice shit anymore
like men designing women in games and expecting it to be an accurate portrayal of women

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Re: zoe quinn and her time with five guys

this is why AAA games will dominate

too big to be bogged down by vocal minorities
developed by huge conglomerations to be destroyed or even disturbed by drama, nepotism, and egos of hollow men

only activision and EA can save us now


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tamsoft save us


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#21 08-23-2014 14:07:34

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Re: zoe quinn and her time with five guys

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truthfully i think i take more issue with her hypocrisy as a person than her manipulation of guys for publicity. i think there's way more to be at fault for as a partner and decent human being than as a member of the gaming industry. do you really want to tell me that gaming would be the only industry in which bribery didnt take place? does this really change anything?

It's not so much a minus for the video game industry then it is for any form of journalism. When people get into TV news or journalism, no matter where you go, you're labeled a fraud. If you do news-based blogs, you're a biased bigot with your own agenda. This combined with Keighley's infamous image have now essentially labeled gaming journalism as fucking sell-outs and corrupted fuckheads. I told a few friends of mine who are majoring in journalism between a couple different colleges about the recent events of Quinn, and their collective response was "Are you shitting me? Do I even have a JOB when I'm done with this shit?"


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im shadowbanning anyone who talks bad about zoey guinq in this thread


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#24 08-24-2014 02:57:27

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Re: zoe quinn and her time with five guys

im opressing you all because you insulted my fwb zoe quinne

get fucking banned


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Re: zoe quinn and her time with five guys

All these loser nerds she had sex with should have had the self respect and willpower to tell this 2/10 short haired cyst to fuck off instead of getting some poonani in exchange for writing some bullshit reviews about Give Yourself Goosebumps: Depression Edition.

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